Rachel accused Ross of … I agree. 4 days 14 hours left. You can't force another person to make a mutual decision by yourself. When I watched it all I could think of was how it's not gonna pass up for today's show standards because of how little regard they did to Julie and her feelings. save. Obviously, he can't force her. David Schwimmer set the record straight on Monday’s episode of The Tonight Show. Wrong argument. Ross. Ross dude. Directed by James Burrows. She even actively tried to subotage those relationships (both times using bad haircuts... That's a weird theme I only now notice...). r/AskReddit is the place to ask and answer thought-provoking questions. share. So I didn’t go near him all week. Rachel and Ross have an argument. Probably more than people here will admit. My boyfriend and I have been dating for 5 years, we actually started dating when we were 17. What happened? And even more, Ross was afraid that she was cheating him with Mark, and when Ross calls Rachel, she is passing the grief with... Mark. In Ross' mind, all his fears were true. That's another reason it's invalid-----There was no consensus reached and if he hadn't acted possessive about her new job and barged into her office almost setting it on fire, they wouldn't have been on the rocks or needed to take a break in the first place-----That was his behavior, that was his fault. She didnt mean "break up." When women say you are on a break it means you aren't together. I don't think that Rachel was ever perfect, but I strongly disagree that she's incompetent. Admittedly Ross went way over the top with his jealousy, but it’s a sitcom and they do things for comedic effect. As a matter of fact, Rachel did become great at her job and her career only went upwards from then on. K. katerkat I wine a lot...it makes me feel better. I can understand the “technically, he didn’t cheat” argument, but their fight was so stupid/dramatic and they SUCKED at communication. Description. Rachel. Let’s break it down: “Were Ross and Rachel on a break”…yes absolutely. 4 talking about this. We want and expect that the person should change the behaviors that get under our skin. she can’t break up with him and then say he’s a cheater when he does something broken up people do. Also, op could use 'moo argument' and didn't. He (rightfully so) blamed me. The book’s protagonists, Liv and Adam, are equal parts endearing and infuriating as they try to figure out what they want from life—and whether that includes one another. So, Ross' "We were on a break!" She admitted that’s not really what she wanted, him too, but for argument’s sake let’s say they did technically break up. She wants to be all dramatic because Ross makes a list to decide who he wants to be with. Everyone and their mother made him the villain and no. Clear as the sunshine, they were on a break. Just like Rachel said, you can't get out of this by technicality. Does that compel her to take him back? Bouncing between England and Mexico, Kelk’s novel alternates between her characters’ duelling perspectives. Rachel ended the relationship. Who do you support on the 'we were on a break' argument? If Rachel doesn't want to be with Ross, for whatever reason it is, that's fine, and he can't do nothing about it. That would mean that ‘we were on a break’ was in fact her breaking up with Ross.” With that said, most users agree it wasn’t really right of Ross to sleep with someone else so soon. Rachel was already taking care of it when Ross shows up and meddle with her while she's in the middle of her work. in the morning they got together. But indeed, no one, never, can force anyone to be with someone he/she doesn't want to. She knew nothing but shopping at fancy department stores and tried to make a career out of it. Sorry, you didn't ask for all of this, and most of this isn't relevant, but I just wanted to get it out there. I’m saying her behavior was rotten to the core and she didn’t deserve him or anyone else who wanted more than to simply use her and if he was thinking clearly he should have never wanted her back in the first place. I'm not sure how much of the detail you … But he's asking Rachel that time and he uses that argument which is totally invalid, like I said it's not up to him to decide if she should take her back with that information. Sarah & Kaela are talking about taking a break from trying to conceive. And Ross didn’t debate it, didn’t counter it, didn’t fight it. Rachel barely suggested they take a break and he stormed out without getting details, talking it over or even agreeing to anything. Just because Ross says they were on a break doesn't mean that Rachel has to get back with him. Rachel clearly told “Maybe we should take a break”. But despite what we just said, and y'know, the title of the episode and everything, it's still pretty unclear whether the duo actually were on a break. no one to cheat on. Nope, he uses it as an argument for her to take him back during their argument, what are u talking about? Also we never really see the other person's perspective like Julie. I thought there was something missing, the story was original but not real, the back and forth between the characters were confusing, not very well developed. I know things hasn’t been going smoothly for either of us. If you are familiar with the 90s show F.R.I.E.N.D.S., then you will recognize this long-running joke based on the first time Rachel and Ross broke up. Finally, during the argument at Rachel’s apartment, she states “We were on a break!” Conclusion: So, from all this, you can see that it was Rachel's fault for not caring enough about her relationship with Ross, and then after dumping him herself, she has no right to dictate what he does afterward, especially since Ross already caught her with the guy who causes his jealousy to begin with. done. big deal, people sleep together all the time. If anything, Ross should have dumped her, broken contact and moved on with his life way before that. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Besides all of these things, Rachel was so dismissive of Ross's interests, career, and educational achievement. The ideal argument parser will recognize both short and long option flags, preserve the order of positional arguments, and allow both options and arguments to be specified in any order relative to each other. And that's not true. We Were On A Break! Events leading up to the break-up of Ross and Rachel. And there’s no doubt that both clearly knew they were on a break. Thread starter CBRorBust; Start date Apr 30, 2004; Prev. She was a hypocrite because she always did what she hated Ross for, cheating. Ross seeks solace at a party after a bitter fight with Rachel and ends up in the arms of another woman; Phoebe's date needs an interpreter to communicate. Why should he? Update: 2019-07-23 1. If he told it to another person, maybe he's right. 1 response. He basically doesn’t trust her with Mark and assumes he was right about him when he heard him in the background (valid assumption at that point but only at that point - not ever before - but it shouldn’t matter because they were “broken up,” remember? We were on a break is a book about the funny side of a break up, between a couple that instead of getting married decided to take a break. Please do not reload the page during the search. At the time, Ross mistakenly suspected that Rachel was having an affair with a co-worker of hers, Mark Robinson, and had subsequently frequently complained about how much time she had been spend… That's one. We dated steadily for three years then took a two-year break while we both lived abroad. Argument is completely valid. Close. We all know the story. Arguing is a good example. Generally humans are little disasters. It was ugly. ‘You’ve just had a holiday,’ I pointed out, trying not to yawn. Ross talks about it to his friends and … Discussion. And, they share comments from listeners about when and why they took a break and how it helped (or not)! It wasn't meant for her eyes, so Ross didn't mean to hurt her. She broke up with him. Where's the actual affection for Ross, for the person he is? She had no degree, no professional experience, all she had ever done was be a homecoming queen and prepare for a life of getting by on her looks. The phrase has its roots in the fifteenth episode of the third season of Friends, titled "The One Where Ross And Rachel Take A Break", when a rift between Ross Geller and Rachel Greene (a couple at the time) came to a head. She only seeks Ross when she finds out he likes her. When you really step back and look at it, Rachel is a horribly selfish, spoiled, manipulative and terrible human being. After settling down with the “safe” guy who had basically put her on a pedestal for years, she used him whenever she needed and blew him off whenever he was inconvenient. Posted by 9 hours ago. Go. What Ross did is a betrayal of their relationship and it absolutely is fair enough for Rachel to consider it cheating. She accused him repeatidly and consistently through the years of cheating on her. Who do you support on the 'we were on a break' argument? Spending extra hours on a job is not a sign of incompetence, it always happens specially in jobs that works on a deadline, that's like most jobs. The superficial reason for the fight was that Rachel was so “busy” that she hadn’t spent any time with Ross in weeks. Her word vomit was in response to the question “what should we do about this problem?” Then he walks out. 17 Jun 08. She's not thinking 'well it's ok, we DID break up for 12 hours that night'. Last Monday, I had an argument with John Holmes and we kind of broke up/took a break. Press the button start search and wait a little while. No. ), then expects forgiveness for actually carrying out the act of sleeping with someone else two minutes after supposedly breaking up. Ross wasn’t at fault. You must be logged in to vote. The "we were on a break" argument. One might also add that by this point in the show, Rachel was perfectly fine with Ross cheating on 2 other people for her (kissing him when he was dating Julie and Bonnie). The other person 's perspective like Julie for actually carrying out the act of sleeping with someone he/she n't. 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